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Lightning-fast shutdown/OFF

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The new home user of comptuters turns them off when they're notusing them, but much to my annoyance, the software manufacturersmake me stand there and click buttons for a significant timeto turn the bloody thing off. I have not changed any settingsor data, i just want to shut down, let me turn it off. Thereused to be processor reset buttons, so i could force the thingoff fast, but they've taken it away to waste my time.

The idea, is to permit the user to shut the machine down in 1second, just like it does when the power goes out. Don't wastemy time with stupid questions, turn off you horrible microsoftbox. As it stands, i've started using the switch on the powerbar for fast OFF. I know in software, it is simply a matter of"exit(0);" Why bother users with an "orderly shut down" whenthey know better that they've nothing to save.

Considering this home user turns off a computer at least twicea day, it would save me several minutes of time, that i preferto have myself, and not donated to microsoft's idiocy.

sweetheart, Nov 14 2004

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Without going into the details of filesystems, open files, system services and background processes, and I'm sure I missed a few good ones, let me assure you, it's not a simple matter of "exit(0);"

Instead, try using your computer's "Hibernate" function. Consumer-grade Windows has supported it since ME, and any modern computer should support it.

In essence, it will allow you to turn your computer off extremely quickly, and, when you turn your computer back on, it will be as though you never turned it off, with all your applications right as you left them. (However, some types of internet connections, and some websites, will require you to log into their service again.)

In terms of power usage, the computer won't use any more power in "Hibernate" mode than it would after being "shut down."

To get back that quick power off feel, set up Windows to go into "Hibernate" mode when you press the power button on your computer.

MikeMol, Nov 15 2004

I was going to reply earlier, but microsoft recently installed its sv2 pak 2 for XP and was blocking popups like this reponse window. I had to decrypt where they hid the secret enablement that i might reply. This itselfan omen of why microsoft has failed miserably at deliveringsimplification for the information appliance age.

As well, within the last 10 minutes, the 500 watt lightbulb in the corner of this house has gone black, from powerfailures. The first 2 caused this comptuter to reboot,and the third was filtered by the power bar. I couldsee the first two coming by the way the lights were wavering. I needed to shut the computer down in 1 second.

I don't think they get it. Clean up the files on thereboot. Presume that no edits have been made, and bootclean. Let the user shut down with a hardware button rightfast, that computers might survive the reality of the testbed.

As well, i am, in an obscure effort, interested in havinga computer survive and EMP pulse attack. In this regard,i figure 1/4 inch shielding and instantaneious disconnectionfrom power supplies and networks will enable A PC a likelihood of surviving a modern military-grade EMP weaponat 1000 miles.

The answer is not, "you don't understand how to hibronate".The answer is "Yes", we'll fix the technology to lightning-spike reality.

sweetheart, Nov 17 2004

For your power troubles, may I suggest a UPS? I believe ISOBAR provides units that come with insurance in case of product failure, even in the event of a lightning strike.

As for shutting down, or even hibernating, in the time it takes for lightning to strike: By the time your computer could know about a strike, the energy will have already reached it.

MikeMol, Nov 17 2004

Use a CD-bootable operating system. You might want to check out Windows PE. It is not sold but you must format your own windows yourself on to a CD. Advantages: Virusproof, Crashproof, and you can't break it by pulling the plug.Windows 2000 MIGHT BE sold that way, I've heard.

Disadvantages: need at least 2 CD drives especially for installing new software. It might run slow at first (butit won't get any slower or buggier).

mr2560, Nov 20 2004

I am totally in support of this idea. I don't care about the intracies of filesystems and corrupting data etc.....I just want to turn the damn thing off! I, too, often just use the main power to shut down. On my laptop I simply unplug and yank the battery. LOL.

erichenryus, Feb 07 2007

This exists in the form of a Pocket PC. If you have the money and slower speeds are acceptable, 200msec shutdowns are reasonable. The military has such requirements. New software and memory technologies are likely to to make future commercial computers do practically what you want.