Don't confuse mathematics with physics or other sciences. Mathematics does not deal with truth which is an interpretation of reality. Mathematics provides a system for investigating reality precisely. But it provides all sorts of systems which have nothing to do with reality. Mathematics merely demands that its systems are consistent within themselves. Some of the systems offered by mathematics are found to relate closely to experimental reality and thereby are very useful.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Mr mst3kzzPlease learn yourself on the concept of "double truth"

The "redundancy theory" of truth holds that to assert that a statement is true is just to assert the statement itself. Thus, to say that "Speak for yourself not for others is true" is to say nothing more nor less than "Speak for yourself not for others".

Metaphysical subjectivism holds that the truth or falsity of all propositions depends, at least partly, on what we believe!

Mathematics may be the only ultimate truth we have so I don't think ignoring it will help "learn you" some kind of higher truth. Sand is correct in saying that Math is concepts and rules that are self-consistent. Also, it is based on axioms that we assume to be true and the theorems and corrollaries follow logically from them. If the axioms were false, yes, the conclusions drawn are no longer valid, but because they are based on those axioms, those assertions are true relative to the assumptions. If there existed some way of forming conjectures willy nilly without any assumptions then you might have yourself some kind of point, but there isn't, so my suggestion for you is to take some undergraduate pure mathematics courses so you will know what you are talking about.

mst3kzz

you got the whole idea wrong!

I am not talking about truth or vada vada,I am focussing on efficiency of math as a tool to reveal the truth.

I am better off,not doing a graduation in pure mathematics..I guess!

Maybe you could and this is all I have to comment!!

The "ultimate" truth of the universe is essentially the state of the universe. You can't find the state of a closed system from inside said system, though. So as long as you're inside the universe you're out of luck.

If there is a God (which seems unlikely to me but unprovable either pro or con)and He is all powerful (as is claimed) His disposal of my soul (for which I find no evidence)is out of my hands and yours, whatever your concerns with my comments.