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Decremental tolls

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Why not creating decremental tolls for saturated highways? The slower you drive, the less you pay. It takes an hour to drive by highway from Bergamo to Milano (Lombardia, Italia) during the week (53 km). If you're unlucky, due to accidents it can take 2/3 hours. Why do we have to pay a full toll for an only partially used service?An italian joke states the opposite: the private company managing the highways in thinking about adding an extra tax to anyone stucked in a queue (actually, he is parking his car in a highway lane instead of moving ahead ;-) )

pitagora, Jul 12 2006

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The standard capitalist supply and demand rules imply the opposite.
The more demand for a resource, the higher the price goes, unwanted resources result in price reductions.

Higher charges for peak times are common: Congestion charging in London, higher train fares in rush hours etc.

This has the positive benefit of encouraging travel "off-peak" instead of during peak times.
Opposite solution: Limit the number of vehicles allowed per hour on congested roads, and sell tickets for peak times as an on-line auction. There are countries already planning this system.

ChrisF, Jul 12 2006

I agree with you. On the other side, I was thinking about another standard capitalist supply and demand rule. The better a product or service is, the higher the price goes and viceversa, the worse a product is the less you're willing do pay.Why do we have to pay a full toll (peak or off-peak, it doesn't matter if the total amount is the same), when you drive on a highway with men at work with speed limits decreased and 2 lanes instead of 3? If you get stuck in a queue it's not your fault, it's the highway managing company fault.In Italy you can get (sometimes ;-)) your money back if you bought an Eurostar train ticket and you arrived with more than 40 minutes of delay.For high-speed train between Lyon and Milan, there have been (and still there are) men at work for 2 years on the highway between Torino and Milano (100 km): tolls have increased compared to 2 years ago by 5%, but you have only 2 lanes and a 80 km/h speed limit compared to 3 lanes and 130 km/h! No one is complaining for a service which is at least 30% worst!!!

pitagora, Jul 13 2006

I agree with you. On the other side, I was thinking about another standard capitalist supply and demand rule. The better a product or service is, the higher the price goes and viceversa, the worse a product is the less you're willing do pay.Why do we have to pay a full toll (peak or off-peak, it doesn't matter if the total amount is the same), when you drive on a highway with men at work with speed limits decreased and 2 lanes instead of 3? If you get stuck in a queue it's not your fault, it's the highway managing company fault.In Italy you can get (sometimes ;-)) your money back if you bought an Eurostar train ticket and you arrived with more than 40 minutes of delay.For high-speed train between Lyon and Milan, there have been (and still there are) men at work for 2 years on the highway between Torino and Milano (100 km): tolls have increased compared to 2 years ago by 5%, but you have only 2 lanes and a 80 km/h speed limit compared to 3 lanes and 130 km/h! No one is complaining for a service which is at least 30% worst!!!

pitagora, Jul 13 2006