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Air passengers encased in foam

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This may be a lot of old cobblers but could it be possible to fit commercial airliners with a "last resort" system whereby a series of aerosols under the floor fill the cabin with quick drying foam that will completely encase the passengers?

The foam would not only absorb impact but it would allow the body to move around just enough to minimise internal injuries. The foam would also need to allow people to breath (or perhaps they have to put on breathing masks first)

Horribly claustrophobic, I know, but better than certain death.

What level of impact could such a foam survive?

Would the pilots have to sacrifice themselves (making sure the plane hurtles into a forest and not a busy city street)?

Whataloadof, Jan 15 2007

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Although passengers might survive a crash, can you imagine what it might be like encased in foam and trapped in a fuselage in the middle of a forest or desert or floating in the ocean hundreds of miles from civilization? Perhaps cyanide filled dentures might be useful there.

sand, Jan 15 2007

According to statistics I've seen, more people die in burning planes on the ground because they can't get out in time than are killed during the crashes. The foam would obviously compound this problem.

Dwane Anderson, Jan 15 2007

Hmm, this sounds a bit over the top. I would perfer to have an old fashion parachute that would separate from the wings, and the rest of the fuselage, and glide gently down to earth. Being encased in aerosol foam with 15000 gallons of jet fuel igniting around me does not sound like a way I would perfer to die.

bkeene12, Jan 15 2007

The ideal shock absorber would be to fill the cabin with water and give the passengers breathing apparatus. Unfortunately this would make the plane so heavy it could never fly.

sand, Jan 16 2007

Interesting idea but remember the plane is traveling at 500?? mph. So the instant seat 5B hits earth (and slows to 0 mph rather quickly), right behind are seat rows 6 through 27, two lavatories and a tail section that are still traveling at 500 mph (i.e. 5B and 27B and all in between will kiss in less than 1/7 of a second). All of them will be joining 5B in 4B's seat back. Foam inside a plane will not stop the inertia. Alternatively, we could fill the earth with foam - that would allow a crashing plane to decelerate at a survivable rate. Until we do that, I'll go for the parachute bkeene12 recommended.

rdy4trvl, Jan 17 2007

What you're talking about here sounds more like the need for a system to deploy airbags that stay inflated until the plane quits moving. Seems great as long as the fuselage remains intact. Pretty much useless otherwise.

Hyenuf, Jan 19 2007

Whataloadof: Excellent idea.
The foam already exists on most aircraft, it exists as the seats we sit in. If the seats were contoured to our bodies and the seat in front of us matched our contour, then the seats just need to slide together to encase us in foam. If the aircraft computer/sensor package detected an impending catastrophic accident, the seats could slam together, jetison from the plane, and deploy a ballistic parachute to allow most passengers to survive.

The foam system may not be suitable in all situations, however, computers and sensors are commonly utilized for making such decisions. Airbags in automobiles are typical. Only under specific circumstances do airbags deploy.

Also, the foam does not necessarily need to be a solid. Aerogel is a lightweight compound that resists deformation, but it certainly can be deformed easily. How many G's can be experienced and survive with the right density of material? There is so much that is unknown about this problem that it we can only come up with ideas for what might work, or what possibly should be considered.

A professional skydiver jumped at 3,000 feet AGL and both chutes failed to open. With a terminal velocity of about 150 mph, the skydiver landed flat on his back on newly layed sod. After a short time the skydiver was conscious and aware, but was unable to move having broken many of the bones in his body. He walked out of the hospital after 6 months and returned to skydiving. With some assistance, even catastrophic accidents may be survivable by many, though probably not all.

Excellent Idea