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Ludicrous new transport system

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This idea is almost as bad as the elevator to space NASA is proposing. Maybe even as bad as the train attached to the moon thing I saw a while ago on here.

But here it is anyway...

Run a wide tube (say 10-20m int dia) with thick walls spiralling north to south around the earth. When the spiraling tube reaches the south pole (or near), run it straight back to north pole to rejoin.

Now fill that pipe with a magnetic fluid, enough so all the pipe is filled (all 100,000's miles of it!), place a air-tight pod filled with cattle/humans/guinea pigs! (infact, the pod could be the magnetic part instead). Create a junction system for popular destinations, maybe pipe some fluid off to generate power and hey presto, a big mess!

Creo, Jan 26 2007

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Oh and on NASA's elevator to space, if their that concerned about the price, why doesn't the US gov make use of the ampl hydro thermal power below (enough to power the US for thousands of years with ever increased pop), and build a giant solenoid somewhere to launch space vehicles. We can make amazingly accurate particle accelerators miles long, why not a non-pollutive launch device.

Creo, Jan 26 2007

Is your idea supposed to use the Earth's magnetic field to provide propulsion? This won't work. Not only is the Earth's magnetic field too weak, but even if it was strong enough it still wouldn't work on principle. You would be trying to build a giant version of one of those magnetically powered perpetual motion machines that we have to debunk here on a regular basis.

I think your other idea is an electromagnetic accelerator. This has been seriously considered by NASA. The problem with it is the aerodynamic drag. Drag increases as a square of velocity. This limits speeds to around five thousand miles per hour near the Earth's surface. This will not get you anywhere near space as the craft will lose velocity as it rises due to both drag and gravity. Increasing velocity won't help much because the increase in drag will slow it down even faster.

Dwane Anderson, Jan 26 2007

I understand it that the initial blast takes the vast majority of the power. An electromagnetic accelerating launch device would surely allow for smaller fuel loads, in turn wheight/size reduction and more importantly cost. Which is the primary aim of the idea.

The big silly tube however is quite literally that, big and silly, it's a devoid off-shoot of an idea I had when I was young (which wasn't perpetual motion, but still a form of magnetic propulsion. One infact that I made a working prototype of, but it's unfortunate enviromental cosequencies meant it couldn't really be implemented).

Wondering though, the gravitational pull of the moon is not constant, but is strong enough to move water?

Creo, Jan 29 2007

The Space Elevator could be paid for by the proceeds of selling abundant clean power provided by space based concentrators. Thus providing the potential to reverse global warming by eliminating almost all human produced greenhouse gas emissions. The same concentrators can be used to provide heat sinks so as not to contribute to global warming.

jamesbdunn, Jun 16 2007

Where I referred to concentrators, I meant "Solar Concentrators". A one square kilometer mirrored surface can relatively easily be produced in space, the solar winds can provide the propulsion, and having large numbers of such concentrators allows for powering multiple power plants around the world along a prescribed trajectory.

jamesbdunn, Jun 16 2007