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No Babies for Crooks

Category: Punitory
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What if we made sterilization part of the punishment for all felony crimes ? It would prevent that defective part of the Y-chromosome from being passed on. Too far out for now ? I say this partly because I think the day will come when we can no longer afford crime.

Belmont, Oct 22 2007

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The assumption that crime is caused by a genetic defect is without foundation and is a tool of totalitarian government.

sand, Oct 22 2007

Enough research has been done to indicate a genetic disposition to criminal behaviour. For a start Try http://law.jrank.org/pages/12004/causes.

Belmont, Oct 22 2007

So must I conclude that the guilty Enron executives, the murderous Khmer Rouge in totality, all the Gestapo nasties and the German concentration camp guards, the people who burned witches in the Middle Ages, the whites who persecuted and hung blacks during the time after the American Civil War, the people who ran the pogroms in Europe, most of the people who conducted the Crusades, all of the nasties throughout history who have and are conducting murder, mayhem, robbery, rape etc. did so because of bad genes? Come on!

sand, Oct 23 2007

It would be unconstitutional at least, at most against human rights.

classicsat, Oct 23 2007

Nothing about the available evidence suggests that all evil-doers are genetically defective. It suggests that certain genetic traits increase the likelihood of typical crimes by individuals. Large scale crimes aginst humanity by institutions are the result of the group dynamic, or the mob mentality, and are a different matter altogether. We're not dealing with ex-nazis in the prisons here in California.

Sterilizations of retarded persons were a common thing in the first half of the 20th century in the United States. Several thousand in California. Why not criminals ? After all, they have demonstrated their irresponsibility and there no reason to assume they would make good parents.

Where does the constitution say that incarcerated criminals should be allowed to procreate while in prison ? If we decide we can stop that during incarceration, and if we decide we can stop them from owning guns after release, then I say we can stop them from reproducing in general.

Considering that the earth is already extremely over-populated I see nothing wrong with having the response to that problem begin with criminals.

Belmont, Oct 23 2007

yeah, too far out, and what type of crimes are going to attract the rule? white collar too.

what about no babies for poor people - no job, no money, no baby. you can;t afford to look after yourself, how can you look after a baby. need to prove you can do it. this should take care of most of your y-chromosome issue.

steveo, Oct 23 2007

What about people who commit crimes after they've already had children? ? ?

Do we send thier kids to the gallows as kind of a retroactive sterilization?

Just wondering. . .

Hyenuf, Oct 29 2007

My sentiments exactly, crossed genes or not, whack em.

dehsigner, Oct 29 2007

A safer tomorrow - a better future for your kids - no more mugging,advanatages galore. Sounds a little cruel

pepindia007, Nov 17 2007

Given the plutocratic nature of the justice system, and its racial bias towards incarcerating persons of color - the recommendation to sterilise mostly black persons is aweful eugenic and a bit suprising given that race eugenics has beendiscredited as morally despicable in our time.

sweetheart, Nov 17 2007