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WHAT Causing The Housing Meltd

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WHAT Causing The Housing Meltdown ?

Definitions of FICO Score on the Web • FICO is a credit score scale used by many mortgage lenders that use a risk-based system to determine the possibility that the borrower may default on financial obligations to the mortgage lender. www.ff.com/public/glossary.jsp • A generic credit score developed by Fair, Isaac and Company, Inc., that was designed to predict the possibility of borrowers becoming seriously delinquent in their credit obligations. www.fultonmortgagecompany.com/Glossary.asp • A rating system created by the Fair Issacs Company. FICO scores are based on information reported in consumer credit files. The formula used for FICO scores creates a standardized rating of a borrower's credit history. www.redhotfunding.com/glossary.html • A credit score is a numerical index which represents an estimate of an individual's financial creditworthiness. It is based on a subset of the information in an individual's credit report. Lenders, such as banks and credit card companies, use credit scores to determine credit limits and interest rates FICO score. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FICO_score

Using the bank’s own words against them. Banks claim the higher the FICO score usually 700 or above the less risk that the possibility of borrowers becoming seriously delinquent in their credit obligations to pay their loan. People with FICO scores 700 and above get the lowest interest rate because they are less risk according to the banks. These people pay hundreds of dollars less in the interest rate that the bank charges.

According to the banks people with a FICO score of 600 or less have a higher possibility of borrowers becoming seriously delinquent in their credit obligations to pay their loan.

What makes no sense!Banks increase the risk by charging higher interest rates to these people with a FICO scorer of 600 or less knowing the possibility of borrowers becoming seriously delinquent in their credit obligations to pay their loan. These people with a FICO score of 600 or less pay hundreds of dollars more in the interest rate for the same loan.

Who is more likely to have a FICO score 700 or above?

someone who makes $1,000 a month or someone who makes over $10,000 a month? The answer is someone who makes over $10,000 a month. The banks are giving the wealthy and rich people lower interest rates, than people who are struggling to make a living. Example 1 Single mom who makes $1000 month and has a house full of children needs a car to get to work to keep a roof over her and kid’s head will pay hundreds of dollars more in the car payments than a person who has a lot more money simply because that she might have had some problems in the past like being laid off her job at Enron can’t pay hear her bills on time causing her credit score to drop. The bank increases the risk by charging more money knowing that the possibility of borrowers becoming seriously delinquent in their credit obligations to pay their loan this makes no sense. while the bank makes huge profits over the course of the loan.

Example 2

Ken has a job at Enron for five years and was making all his payments on time. He got laid off, can’t make his house payments and soon ends upends up with a FICO score less than 600. He tries to refinance his house for a lower payment. The Banks refuse to give him a lower payment because his FICO score is less than 600 causing him to lose his family home. The bank, ends up with the home resells the home at the new market value causing the family to become homeless. This is like organized crime and discrimination by the banks using FICO score to charge higher interest rates knowing the possibility of borrowers becoming seriously delinquent in their credit obligations to pay their loan. Example 3

Banks invented option arm loans giving them to people with a FICO score of 620. A lot of people take these loans not knowing the risk. When the loan becomes fully amortized, the payments can double then causing the possibility of borrowers to become seriously delinquent in their payments. The bank loves this because they can take the home leaving borrowers without anything. This again is like organized crime by banks.

The majority of Americans have low FICO scores, this is how the banks get away by charging unnecessary interest rates to Americans and the poor. It makes no sense that the bank would double the risk by charging more money knowing that the possibility that the borrower may default on financial obligations to the mortgage lender. FICO score should not be used as a justification to charge more money to Americans and the poor or someone who the Banks considers a risk. FICO scores should only be used to determine who doesn’t pay their bills and denies further credit to those who don’t pay their bills. FICO scores are causing the housing industry to come to its knees because of the greed in real estate. The culture in the housing industry has been buy a house for $200,000 hold onto the house for a few years and sell at a higher price when the market value increases. Today, houses are sitting on the market longer, because more people can't qualify for a home loan because of the prices is out of reach of mom and pop the common people the engine that keeps the great America moving. Elevated house prices and property taxes, foreclosure at a record high, people are leaving the State of California because of the greed in real estate. Escalating prices cause many bank to close leaving the debt to the taxpayers. Because of this material greed and FICO scores fraud caused by the banks and unsavory real estate practices this is leading to a national housing crisis, and the American dream of owning a home is becoming a nightmare! Young adults can't afford to leave their parents' home because of increased housing prices. The next generation of Americans won't be able to own a home if this FICO score fraud and real estate greed by Banks and sellers driving prices out of the reach of common Americans continues.

The Solution

1. Abolish FICO score practices that allow banks to charge higher interest rates because of low FICO scores increasing the risk resulting in the possibility that the borrower may default on financial obligations to the mortgage lender.

2. One interest rate for all barrowers and to set a cap on the interest so the banks cant charge an exploited interest rate causing a national debt for the next generation to pay.

3. If a house cost say $200,000 to build cap the markup at say 20% and adjust the mark up price and taxes depending on the growth of the economy the same capped amount would apply to sellers as well. This would stabilize the real estate market with steady growth and bring back the American dream of homeownership.

4. People caught in the current subprime mortgage convert those loans to 70 years loans

5. Reduce the mouse and land prices to a price that is not out of sync with the people that service and live in the area e.g. Los angles California “Crenshaw Boulevard $739,000 800 sq foot 3 br 2 ba Apt/Condo/Twnhs ZIP Code: 90005 $509,000 2 br 2 ba Single-Family Home ZIP Code: 90026 “ this is where the poor lives, mom and pop the common people the engine that keeps the great America moving people who makes about $15000 $2500 a month will never be able to get a peace of the American dream because of the greed and the different incentives to drive up housing prices .

5. When housing prices drops adjust the borrowers mortgage, taxes and insurance to the current home value.

Congress needs to take a look at the FICO scam perpetrated by banks this material greed and FICO scores fraud caused by the banks and unsavory real estate practices immediately. It has become a serious crisis especially here in California, one we may never recover from if allowed to continue.

Thank You.

izhmel, Dec 29 2007

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I don't agree with your proposals at all.

1. Abolish FICO? The people doing the lending are the ones accepting risk--it only makes sense for them to access the risk to the best of their abilities. If you were gambling with your money you would too. There's not much risk lending to people that have a good payback record. For people that don't, the extra money is the incentive for the lender to pay attention to them. 2. One rate? No incentive to loan to high-risk people. 3. Price caps don't work, Nixon proved this--it ammounts to Communism. 4. 70-year loans are more usary than any other. The 700-fico people will all tell you the shortest loan is the best--If you pay-off your house in 15 years, it'll usually cost you half of what a 30 year would. People don't buy a house at age 10-then pay 'til they're 80--In your scenario, all houses would end up foreclosed after the borrower's death--I'm not going to pay-off my parent's house!5. The reason real-estate cost so much where you live is because people will pay it. Those people make a judgement--I choose to live where things are affordable. The vast majority of the USA is vacant land. Concentrating people on the coasts makes them expensive. The reason ARM's are set up with a 'balloon' is because the creditors expect the borrowers to form some good payment habits, then they can re-finance (which is good for both of them) instead of paying the balloon.

hrench, Dec 30 2007

After the bank access the risk and makes the risk grater by giving the the pilot more alcohol to drink and then gives the pilot the keys to the airplane and gets in the airplane with the pilot and when the airplane crashes the bank turns around and want to hold the pilot fully responsible for the crash and then says they are not responsible for the crash in anyway and don't want to help out the pilot by not serving the pilot more than .08 to increase the risk of airplane crashing and leaves the tax payers F.D.I.C to pay for the bank's mistake is wrong and irresponsible.

The banks a big part of the problem today in the housing crisis because they and others encouraged a house that only cost $200000 to build to sell for $500000 so they can make hundreds of thousand of dollars over the life of the loan now that house prices dropped a little closer to what they should have sold for in the first place the banks needs to reassess the value and to lower the payments to the new house value, and tell there buddy s on wall street the money that was promised to them and there investors that the stock has drooped and not make the American People pay for a stock that caused to crash because of there own greed, I see F.I.C.O score as a way for the banks to make more money after the Feds lower interest rates, and is a on going penalty for people who already paid there late fees and had some financial problems in the past,I think F.I.C.O score is an on going penalty after people paid there late fees.

Banks increase the risk to the F.D.I.C by charging more interest to people with low F.I.C.O scores.

izhmel, Jan 05 2008

izhmel, I believe in freedom and free markets, but I want to say that I'm not keen to be one of the people defending bankers or for that matter, lawyers--I don't think they add very much value to our society.

Funny how a bank is usually the biggest, most impressive building in a town, but when you think about what a bank does, there's really no productive 'work' from it. And the bankers and lawyers are usually the richest people in the town, too.

I believe the Real solution is for people to stop borrowing to buy things and just save until they can pay for it. Credit is a parasite on people; it takes away your wages but gives you nothing back. I guarantee the home prices would plummit to the actual build-price + land if there weren't people willing to go into debt for a house.

I also don't understand how US tax laws got written to encourage home borrowing. It makes no more sense than if there were interest deductions for car loans or Mastercard.

hrench, Jan 07 2008

I do know what cause the housing problem.I would like to tell you how to solve the problem.President Obama should allocate money for reaserch what work and what doesen't. It should be done an a small scale in one city. People who lost their house to forclosure should be allowed back to home to live, as long as they can pay taxes on it.Grace period should expire after one year. After one year deal should be worked out with a bank, to adjust their current mortgage rate to 5%. Owner would be obligated to pay minimum 50% of charge. Every yearincrease of 5% will be added until loan will be payed in full.

nunzio, Mar 07 2009