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Generator + High capacity batteries + electric motor + all the gears, transformers, wiring and inverters needed = my vision. Electric motor uses charge from old car batteries to turn generator. Generator makes the electricty, duh, which is stored in batteries and flows through inverter to whatever you need power for.Power also is supplied to a small electric motor which in conjunction with neccasary gears or pulleys turns the generator. I am not an electrician or an engineer so I don't know enough about the subject to know how to pull this off. It's just an Idea I came up with while thinking of an inexpensive way to power my house and farm. Any one ever heard of something like this? Be nice.
leuico, Jan 24 2008
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Not going to happen..what your trying to create is a machine with 100% efficiency, which unfortunately do not exist.
I agree with jterry85, at best you are trying to create a perfect energy circle (closed system) that runs indefinitely. At worst you are not seeing that you state that you are going to introduce a load (you are asking the energy to do work)into the circuit by powering the house, which draws off the energy you need to go back to the generator to charge up the batteries again.
If I am incorrect in my assumptions please let me know.
You are doing this:
Batteries-->Electric Generator-->Batteries
If that is the case, you will have losses due to heat (friction), vibration, etc. as the batteries charge and discharge and the generator wheels turn which will ultimately eat up your available charge and the system will stop.
or, you are doing this:
Batteries-->Electric Generator-->External load (house)+Internal load (electric motor with belt to turn generator) both drawing off of your available charge to do their work-->Electric Generator-->Outside load (house)....and so on.
You would actually get longer 'work' out of both systems if you got rid of the generator altogether. In the first case that would simply mean that you would be shorting the battery (allowing current to flow from negative to positive) which would continue until the battery was discharged, or in the second case, the batteries would power the house until they discharged, and you can leave the generator and pulleys out of it.
Electricity wants to flow in a circle (called a circuit), from A to B and back to A. Think of all the various parts of your setup as impediments (or loads) to the flow of electricity. The harder you make it for the electricity to flow, the more of it will be needed to overcome the obstacles that you have placed in its path.
The wires, the generator, the inverters, the house, the pulleys, all of those are obstacles to the stored electrical energy in the battery from completing its circuit. The more obstacles there are, the quicker that the stored energy in the battery will be used up, until it can no longer overcome the obstacles, and the flow ceases.
hey i got the blue prints there ruff but i think it work but its not a gen it a engine set up i was looking for help with this maybe u can help me just look up my email to contact me and well figur it out XD i even have a car designed around it haha thoughts of a 16 year old hahaha fyi ever heard of ion engines if this goes through we WILL change how we go in space and for u non belivers NEVER say no till u TRY!
look i under stand what the last dude said but if u creat a "setup" that can put out more with consuming a lil more power making electricity of a generator lets put it this way my idea makes it a option to get a quick boost of power using a solar panel this way u are giving more power to the system from a source that going super nova in a few billion years so y waist water and air? just use a non renewable its just usable XD idk what im talking about but any way my plans call for a system that can put out power at a level for a amount of time but if more power is needed it drains the system for the power it needs then puts it back in the system the calls for monitors and shut offs i plan to have a main and a back up just encase the computer fails to read something right but it has to warn u be for going to back up so if u hammer it it will drain a lot at first then over power the systems when u lett of the get on the brakes it will trun the gen way down to take the power out and restore it to a normal level then as u let off the brakes and back on the gas it picks back up using the power from the system this is y the back up battery and the solar panel com in handy in stop and go traffic the solar panel will chard the system and the back up or just the back up or just a part of the system like the drive motor and take less stress on the gen so it last longer like high way drivers the solar panel will be best for them since they travel at a constint speed. and then theres the speed demons (myself included) who like to hammer it the solar panel and the back up battery play a part all we got do is stop and just listen to the radio for i think it be 5 min for the system and the battery top get back up to normal i had this planed for this engine setup to be used in a 2door or a truck i know theres a BIIGG differents in the 2 but under stand 1 day i hope to keep my truck and replace the big block V8 with this but 1st ill buy a smart passion then work on this ill need another car XD
Hey man I had this same idea about 4 years ago, and that is exactly what i said, WHY NOT!!.I have talked to a few people about it and got, "NOW THATS AN INTERESTING IDEA" Which interpreted means "That'll never happen"But the way I look at it with the technology today that most people don't believe we have I believe it can and will be done and if not by me or you then someone will.I even looked into one of the invetion help websites,"RIP OFF"!!!!!!!!I havent given up on it so if you want to talk about it and go over some ideas let me know and we will figure it out, and to the person that commented "it will never be done" there is a saying that i love that goes; THOSE WHO SAY IT CANNOT BE DONE SHOULD GET OUT OF THE WAY OF THOSE WHO ARE DOING IT.........So let me know,RAWLY ANDERSON
Hey I do think that that type of system will work but you have to have more than one system doing the work. At least three system that generate or provide a minimum amount of power that is enough to power the car. Each system should be able to power the car by itself for the desired speed and duration so when you combine them in a way that creates a regenerative type "feedback" or positive aiding to the main system that is powering the car keeping the car going. You should include all forms of energy to facilitate your idea. If you want to talk about it offline email me.
Michael
Your idea is common I guess becauseI thought that I had come up with the same thing haha! but i am actually going to school right now to turn this idea into reality. hopefully someone beats me to it =\