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self powered generator

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Generator + High capacity batteries + electric motor + all the gears, transformers, wiring and inverters needed = my vision.

Electric motor uses charge from old car batteries to turn generator.

Generator makes the electricty, duh, which is stored in batteries and flows through inverter to whatever you need power for.Power also is supplied to a small electric motor which in conjunction with neccasary gears or pulleys turns the generator. I am not an electrician or an engineer so I don't know enough about the subject to know how to pull this off. It's just an Idea I came up with while thinking of an inexpensive way to power my house and farm. Any one ever heard of something like this? Be nice.

leuico, Jan 24 2008

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Sorry to tell you that you have reinvented the classic perpetual motion machine, which can't work, due to fundamental laws of thermodynamics.

In a nutshell, imagine if every part of your machine had zero friction - perfect bearings, 100% efficient generators and so on. If this were true, all you would do would be to move the energy around from one part of the machine to another, with no net gain anywhere in the system.

Add back the real world losses due to friction etc, and every part of your system will eat up a little of the energy as it goes by, and convert it to heat.You end up wasting more energy by trying to recycle it around the loop you have created, than you would if you just use up the original power source you used to "kickstart" it.

In thermodynamics, this shows up as fundamental laws of physics, which have been proven mathematically, and proven in real life many times over.

gordwait, Mar 27 2008

Lead Acid batteries must be charged with more energy than you can discharge off of them. The batteries emit gases and heat while charging. They self-generate a small amount for a short time, but this condition will ruin the battery.

Recycling the batteries saves in the fuel needed to process lead(Pb) ore.

One day when a nuclear process called "Total Annihilation" becomes practical, we will be able to use any waste, even nuclear waste, and generate clean power. But for now, the last I knew, they have been unsuccessful in breaking nuclear bonds using low energy potentials. But I do continue to hear of successes in related technologies.

For now, the saying "No one gets anything, for nothing" still holds true.

jamesbdunn, Apr 02 2008

Well, I think this is a good Idea, I have been thinking about this for years.what you guy commented make sence, but in order to make it work we will have to take advantage of mechanical movements. the sizes of the gears or pulleys play an important roll in this project. this is just my theory I will have to try it by my self.

CHANDO, Jun 02 2008

You can't bend the laws of physics or thermodynamics. As already has been stated, this is equivalent to a perpetual motion machine. There are always, ALWAYS inefficiencies which cause a loss of the resource energy, so eventually the machine will have to stop due to lack of energy.

rphill12, Jun 11 2008

I think it's a great idea. I agree that what the others are saying has merit. But you don't have to go to far back in history to hear experts saying the same things about hundreds of inventions that we use every day. So it can't be done?

Toolvault, Jun 22 2008