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self powered generator

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Generator + High capacity batteries + electric motor + all the gears, transformers, wiring and inverters needed = my vision.

Electric motor uses charge from old car batteries to turn generator.

Generator makes the electricty, duh, which is stored in batteries and flows through inverter to whatever you need power for.Power also is supplied to a small electric motor which in conjunction with neccasary gears or pulleys turns the generator. I am not an electrician or an engineer so I don't know enough about the subject to know how to pull this off. It's just an Idea I came up with while thinking of an inexpensive way to power my house and farm. Any one ever heard of something like this? Be nice.

leuico, Jan 24 2008

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Perpetual motion?

sand, Jan 24 2008

They sell these over by the fountain of youth.

Puddinhead, Jan 26 2008

Forget the batteries. Just connect an electric motor shaft to a generator.

Then connect the electrical output of the generator to the input of the electric motor.

Spin the shaft, and it will keep running forever.

Or, so it says in my copy of "Perpetual Motion -- What THEY Don't want you to know".

[Seriously, it does not work. Never has. Never will. Some problem having to do with "conservation of energy".]

ronvparsons, Apr 08 2008

It's pretty much impossible. But if you figure out how to do this, can I be your friend?

swilli28, Apr 09 2008

high leuico. your right: you obviously arn't an electrician or electrical engineer, but I'm not about to rip into you like some of the guys above. I'll explain why this idea doesn't' work: if you get rid of the battery and inverter and other loads etc. and just had the basics of your idea together==> a motor which powers a generator which powers the motor, due to the laws of thermodynamics, would not work. why? the motor is not completely efficient in converting electrical energy into mechanical energy and the generator is not completely efficient in converting mechanical energy into electrical energy, i.e. all that the system does is looses energy until it soon stops. make sense?

ElecEngRyan, May 11 2008

Check this video out on a self powered generator. You might be interested in. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efCelx7qe_M

svc2211, Jun 10 2008

Nice concept. I'm trying to figure it out. And I will. It's not impossible.

hesta42, Dec 09 2008

Engineers are not correct. The law of conservation of energy does not apply to electrical systems, since the energy gain comes from the environment. No violation is necessary to have perpetual motion.

If you spin the generator very fast, and you use a homemade generator that has very large coils, then at a certain speed, the generator will invert Lenz's law and FREE acceleration will occur. This appears to violate energy principles, but it doesn't. You can then produce more power than you are putting in. This will only happen if you can spin the generator faster enough. You must use N-S-N-S-N-S magnet configuration on the rotor, the magnets must be very close together, and the coil must be an open faced coil, not a magnetically shielded coil.

I've never done this myself. But...Good luck!

supermuble, Aug 13 2009

Your ingredients are pretty much right, your description of how this will work is lacking input. I'm not having a go at you, but your idea is not a new one with engineers. Many people have had a try at this but no self powered generator, that I've heard of, is on the current market, so no-one has officially cracked this yet. I've had a go and currently hold a patent that has yet to be finalized, so I can't say much about it yet.It is good however to see so many people trying to do something about this, after all the destruction of our environment is treason against both man and God, so keep up the good work.

Cerebral222, Sep 03 2009

this is what you do swilli is an idiot because thermodynamic laws state that heat makes power and that is true for gas powered cars but you take wind turbines they dont make power off of heat but what you can do that alot of people over look is go on you tube and look up some videos or you can wait for that new battery there coming out with.

waupun23, Sep 27 2009

Well what if you had a motor to turn two, or three generators, to power the motor thus again? Every forum I been to so far, always talks about one self running generator, but I am sure if one strung up a tree of slightly smaller ones, or even it could be the battery s them selfs. Generators charge one battery, while the other is being used to power a motor, and since this is the computer age, a computer could switch between battery s to another one that has more power. Laptops alert you when their power is low, for them with laptops with an extra battery ready understand this. I hear the lithium ion car by Tesla motors can pick up some speed, and lithium ion battery s like in a laptop can charge while the laptop is plugged in, and sometimes by an external battery as well. Just think, a long time ago, U boats had the long charge up time recharging on a gas motor, now think recharge on an electric one, trading off battery s that power the motor. Doesn't have to be totally free energy, but so cheap on the fuel it be worth it. Long as it last long enough to get me where I am trying to go, I go out pull a string to restart it again. Get it?

Chaznc828, Dec 16 2009

Humm, whats about almost perpetual, pedal power a generator, to power a motor, bionic bike? Or car?

Chaznc828, Dec 16 2009

I'm sorry if using the word "impossible" offended anyone in this conversation. That really wasn't my intent. I'm just saying that the laws of physics as we know them do not allow for perpetual motion to exist. You can harness energy in numerous ways (and yes some are extremely efficient) but finding a way to manipulate energy to be used and that could sustain itself would be...shall we say...a pretty big deal. So Waupun23, when you prove your ability to do this, I'll gladly accept and share with you the title of "idiot". I'll wear the title for me because of my short sighted understanding of physics and you for your already proven abuse of the English language.

swilli28, Jan 12 2010

Has anyone discussed the option of powering the generator with a solar panel?

Zon, Jan 18 2010