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Throw stones at the greenhouse

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The greenhouse effect is a global problem. Why not go beyond the earth to find a solution to global warming? Why not break the greenhouse by throwing stones from space?

Send a mass driver to a convenient near-earth asteroid and use it to throw chunks of the asteroid onto a collision course with the earth. The chunks of rock would be completely pulverized into dust by the impact with our atmosphere. This dust, high up in the stratosphere, would reflect incoming sunlight, mitigating global warming for a few years until settling to the earth's surface.

After settling to the earth's surface, if the source asteroid happened to contain a significant quantity of iron, the dust might act to fertilize the ocean, leading to increased uptake of CO2 by algae, thus reducing the greenhouse effect. This is potentially a catalytic effect- a small amount of dust may yield a great amount of CO2 absorption.

Even if there is no catalytic iron effect, the source asteroid would most likely consist primarily of calcium and magnesium silicates. These minerals react spontaneously with CO2 to form calcium carbonate (limestone) and magnesium carbonate (the "chalk" used by gymnasts and rock climbers). These minerals are thermodynamically stable, so the CO2 would be permanently, safely locked away.

In the course of developing the technology to harness asteroids, we would also learn to deflect them. Someday, this knowledge will be essential to preserving the human race and all life on earth.

Breaking this greenhouse will require throwing lots and lots and lots and lots of rocks. It will certainly make for an amazing nighttime display as the man-made meteors enter the atmosphere. The fireworks show to end all fireworks shows!

yop, Dec 01 2008

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Let's be sure we do the math right, eh?

Why was Leif Erickson's kin able to grow crops for 200 years in Greenland? Today it is still far too cold...

wizard1961, Dec 01 2008

Count me out on this idea, mon.

I'm still waiting for my Al Gore promised global warming to kick into high gear. I have a few palm trees I'd like to plant outside year-round as they are getting too tall to be in the house.

Hyenuf, Dec 02 2008

We're going to need all of that carbon when we colonize Mars.

hrench, Dec 02 2008

Why go across the solar system to get asteroids when we have plenty of dust already here? We also have no shortage of iron. besides, I think we already put too much pollution into the air as it is, we don't need more.

Dwane Anderson, Dec 02 2008

There is no such thing as a dust mine. To get the kind of fine powder we need, the kind that stays suspended in the atmosphere for years, we either have to start with something tiny and build it up, or start with something big and grind it down.

Starting tiny and working up- scientists have proposed burning sulfur to generate aerosolized SO2. Downside is that SO2 reacts with water to make sulfuric acid. Acid rain, yuck.

Starting big and grinding down has problems, too. It takes a lot of energy to grind a rock (or whatever) down to a super fine powder. A lot of energy. Then lifting that quantity of material (tons and tons and tons) up into the stratosphere is a major undertaking as well.

In contrast, I am proposing that we launch just a few tons into space. Then, because we would choose a "near miss" asteroid for the source of our meteorites, it doesn't take much energy to redirect them to collide with the planet. No energy intensive processing is required, since the collision with the atmosphere provides the energy to turn the rocks into powder. Likely, we won't even have to exert any energy to dig the rocks out of the "ground": near-earth asteroids are anticipated to be loosely bound together "rubble piles".

yop, Dec 02 2008

You don't need a mine to get dust. Many countries in the Middle East are literally buried in the stuff. The quantity you would need to have any effect would require either a really big asteroid or a heck of a lot of small ones. A big one would be too dangerous, we're already trying to figure out how to avoid them. Many small ones would be very expensive and would still pose a safety hazard.

I don't really know if this would work or not, but I wouldn't want us to try it.

Dwane Anderson, Dec 03 2008

Dust:

On earth, the super fine dust that we need has a very strong tendency to get blown or washed away. It ends up in the ocean where it dissolves quickly because it has such a high surface area. You can't just go and dig the stuff up. Maybe "dust" isn't the right word. Think "cigarette smoke." Bigger particles wouldn't linger in the stratosphere long enough.

The calcium and magnesium silicate minerals that we would like to use are certainly only available on earth as solid rock. If they were already powdered, they would already have reacted with CO2 from the air.

Danger:

The idea is not to throw a whole asteroid at the earth. The idea is to throw chunks of an asteroid at the earth. Chunks that are small enough to burn up completely in the atmosphere, well before hitting the ground.

Cost:

The cost comes from launching the mass driver. After that, everything is basically free. We would choose a "near miss" asteroid so we don't need too much energy to redirect the chunks of rock. The little energy that is required would come from solar panels. It would take a few years to redirect a significant mass of meteors with our little mass driver, but orbital dynamics are so certain that we can act that far in advance and still be confident that the pass will be a completion.

yop, Dec 04 2008

The Sun-Earth L4 and L5 Lagrange points might be a good place to look for asteroid raw materials. Fight global warming and prevent potential catastrophic asteroid impacts.

yop, Feb 22 2009