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Public Transportation Switch

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Why not switch to public transportation?

I mean, let's really get rid of owning a car and invest all that money in a truly great (utopia-like) public transportation system that takes you anywhere fast, save and comfortable?

People who still want to own a car can do so if they are willing to pay humongous taxes on them (so rich people would be privileged, but who cares? They are privileged already!).

Would it really cost more to create modern subway, skytrain and bus terminals and routes than it costs to produce and maintain millions of cars?

I see for rural areas cars will still be necessary, but what about cities? Specially cities with traffic problems. Just put extremely heavy taxes on driving cars in the city, and offer people a great public transportation infrastructure.

And I'm not talking about standing in an overcrowded subway train during rush-hour having some guys sweaty armpits next to your nose.

I'm talking make it comfortable. Offer a "first class" where people who are willing to pay premium can have a first class experience. And "economy" should be good and clean and save too.

Specially for cities with lots of traffic problems. There are so many cities in the world where people commute to and from work four hours every single day - not because the distances are that far, but because of traffic jams. If you replace all these individual drivers where one person is sitting in a car with great public transportation, there will be no traffic jams left, releasing so much worker productivity. Let's say we just cut it down from 4 hours of commuting to 2 hours (I'm convinced in many of those cities it's very possible to reduce it even further). That frees up 2 hours per day per person in a city with millions of commuters, so that's literally millions of hours of additional productive time available in one of these cities. Even if you calculate a low average wage of like, let's say $2 per hour, that is at least 10 million added to the GDP daily.

I know this is a totally weird out idea. But heck, there's gotta be something better than being stuck in traffic for hours every day, where the most productive thing you can do is listen to an audiobook or maybe talk on the phone with someone.

Plus, in terms of environment and quality of living it would also make a great difference.

I really think that the "one car one person" model isn't going to work for the future, specially for rapidly growing cities in developing nations.

hypnosis, Feb 25 2009

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I'm just so against this that I can't stand it. I think public transporation is back-to-the-past- where I see private transportation as the future. In the 1860's when people started traveling the USA in trains and they were subject to schedules, train malfunctions, and especially robbers. They moved to private vehicles with the Model T and got freedom. Esentially, that's what you're saying--take away peoples freedom. Or at least tax it with 'humongous' taxes. I don't know what country you're in, but do you remember that Freedom is what the USA is about? Did you ever notice the word "Liberty" on all of our coins? Do you know what it means?

It means people should decide how they do things, not the government and not some eco-minded mob that is already stuck riding public transport so they've convinced themselves that it's better. I've ridden big-city trains and it's not better. It's a pain. The only advantages that it has are possibly less fuel used (but I don't believe it) and fewer cars to park.

Here's a quick list of items where private transport beats public hands-down. 1. never have to wait for the machine, it waits for you-rain/snow/shine 2. ever have to bring a stroller on a bus? groceries for six? 3. ever try to seat a family of six together without having to stand? Without having to put your five-year-old in your lap? 4. Ever have a five year old that has to pee? 5. If there's a malfunction, it's out of your hands--you're going to be late--your car maintenance is up to you. 6. If you start late, you can't make up time. If you're early, you can't take another route to sight-see 6. if the workers go on strike, you'll have to ride your bike--maybe for days. 7. in your car, you pick the radio/music--don't need headphones so you can still talk to each other. 8. in a car, you don't have a mysterious stain on the seat that you don't want to sit in. 9. in a car, you can never miss your connection. 10. running errands in a car means that you can pick up your glasses, drop the letters in the mail and buy lunch all in ten minutes. 11. in a car, you're not paying a bus or train-driver to be your chauffer--they make real money you know 12. in a car you don't have to sit next to people that you object to. 13. in a car, you can carry that hobby-related stuff, just in case (saddle, tennis rackets, pilot bag). 14. in a car, you can take your friends to lunch. 15. in a car, you can take a snooze over lunch in your own personal space. 16. in a car, you can look cool to impress a client/girl/etc. 17. in a car you can help other people--like giving them a ride home.

I believe that public transport really costs way more than the benefits it provides, but since the bill goes to the city, you don't know that. I also believe that it really saves very little fuel unless it's electric. The buses in my city mostly have six people riding them except at rush hour. That doesn't seem too green to me. Or very cost effective.

hrench, Feb 26 2009

I agree with hrench that public transport shouldn't and can't replace private transportation, but I think there should be better public transport in US cities anyway. Many countries in the developed world have much better public transportation systems than the US. We're really lagging behind in this department. Diesel buses may not be very green or efficient, but electric trains are the most efficient way to move enormous numbers of people in crowded urban centers. Without the NY subway system, the streets would be hopelessly gridlocked at rush hour. With the US population forever increasing, it will probably be necessary to improve public transport in many cities to avoid gridlock.

Dwane Anderson, Feb 26 2009