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Over the years I have read so many articles and books concerning the concept of perpetual motion. From what I gather, no one has achieved such a feat with any verification. Out of all the countless drawings, diagrams and constructed machines most of them have one very distinct issue in common. "Overcompensation" I do not see my self as an expert in any form on this subject. I have however come to understand that human common sense takes us in so many improbable directions when it comes to something that has never been done or not fully understood. My mind takes me a simpler direction. In order to have something go on forever, it must already contain the properties and functions to make it happen. In other words, energy is forever as it simply is. It changes from one form to another over and over again. A rotating man made wheel is not forever, only the energy that it is composed of. The construct of the wheel it's self will at some point just break down and disperse. This makes the concept of a truly perpetually rotating man made wheel or other machine type impossible. This is with the understanding of Nothing man made will ever be perpetual. There will always be an outside disruption at some point and the eventual break of the material used to construct the machine. Nothing is forever except for the existence of energy. After all perpetual motion does mean non stop at some steady pace in one direction right? Now this is how I loosely understand Newton`s 2nd law. Why not just use a different theory? Instead of looking for "forever". Why not just look for "a really long time"? I do believe it is possible to create a machine that maintains it's own energy by using the natural energy around it and within it. Will it be classified as perpetual, no. If someone were to say they have created the worlds first man made perpetual machine, I would say that that they should re-evaluate the concept and stop being so arrogant. I hope this makes sense to any readers. My mind seems to make better sense when I don't speak it out loud.
mygabster, Nov 07 2009
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The basic problem with perpetual motion is that energy is fugitive. Any device has problems with friction or radiation or other means for energy to escape a system and no system is leakproof. As the energy bleeds away the system slows and finally halts.
The concept of a "perpetual motion machine" is not really understood to mean something that will run literally forever, as in billions of years until the end of the universe. It simply means a machine that will put out power with no power being put into it, or at least no conventional known power source. Motion does go on forever as per Newton's law if no energy is being extracted from a moving object. But the whole point of a "perpetual motion machine" is that it is suppose to keep moving even with energy being extracted. Of course, no man-made object ever keeps moving even without energy being intentionally extracted because friction always extracts some energy and we can never make a device that has absolutely no friction.
Thank you Dwane Anderson. That is a far simpler way to say it. This is the exact point I was aiming for. It seems my mind and the words that come out, don't quite match up.
A manmade perpetual machine with the same amount of energy within the system transforming into kinetic and potential energy continuously for ever is theoretically impossible,not even in deep space for any mechanical work transforms into heat and gets radiated and cannot be captured back fully.But it is the ultimate dream of any mad scientist,more so in these days of acute crisis of conventional energy, driving allmost all mad.All such debates would cease should some cheap and abundant and non-polluting source of energy get discovered.